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skaladom's avatar

As a distant, sympathetic observer to these battles, I distinctly remember when I sensed a change from "cool, another small group we can all stop marginalizing", to a distinct "what's wrong with these activists"?

At some point the demands of trans activists shifted from just letting people live their everyday lives according to their gender identity, to a massive reconceptualization of sex and gender for everyone. It wasn't enough to distinguish gender from sex, now sex was not allowed to have any social relevance whatsoever. Instead of recognising that words like "man" and "woman" are naturally ambiguous between the two meanings, they wanted them fully redefined.

On top of that, the messaging became shrill and unsympathetic. Articles explaining what it's like to have dysphoria were out, and the new line was that trans people didn't owe you any legibility at all (as if social things like gender weren't hugely relational), that they would likely kill themselves if you dared to question any of their demands, and on top of that you would get publicly canceled for daring to suggest that bio sex might be relevant to anything at all, even something so basic as sexual attraction.

To me it felt like a power grab, probably driven by social media's tendency to amplify the shrillest and most extreme voices. I felt bad for the actual trans people trying to live as themselves, which is complicated enough, while being made into a totem by one faction and a scapegoat by another.

Kenny Easwaran's avatar

I’m very skeptical of that paper claiming that higher AIDS incidence at the peak of the pandemic was causal for improved political conditions decades later. I haven’t read the details, but I searched and it does not contain the word “confound”, even though there’s a clear confound in that states with high AIDS incidence at the peak of the pandemic are likely the states with the highest gay population density, which would naturally have some of these effects.

And AIDS was definitely a major setback in gay political progress - in the 1970s, there were a growing number of out celebrities, including people like David Bowie, Elton John, and Mick Jagger, but in the 1980s, many of them went back in the closet. It’s hard to tell how much was backlash, the whole Reagan/Thatcher revolution against the 1970s, and the “disco sucks” movement, and how much came a couple years later with the pandemic starting.

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